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the president needs to take a page out of president bill clinton -- >> he's in philadelphia with the middle class behind him and nodding and saying, i've got a pen, i've got a pen. i've still got a pen, i've still got a pen. >> president obama owes president clinton a great deal for helping him get elected. number one, we need a meaningful citizen education engagement effort with the white house in formada, next year to build the case for a grand bargain. the official version of what i did and what my colleagues did over the last several months and we need congressional hearings that will set the stage for tax reforms, social security reform and the president needs to negotiate privately and have discussions with congressional leaders of both parties privately. those three things can get us to the promt promise land. and without all three of those, we're in trouble. >> but, david, that is exactly what was supposed to happen between july of 2011 and today. and guess what? none of it has happened. none of it. we're having the same conversation. >> you know what? >> only the president c
the president needs to take a page out of president bill clinton -- >> he's in philadelphia with the middle class behind him and nodding and saying, i've got a pen, i've got a pen. i've still got a pen, i've still got a pen. >> president obama owes president clinton a great deal for helping him get elected. number one, we need a meaningful citizen education engagement effort with the white house in formada, next year to build the case for a grand bargain. the official version of...
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we always talk about the 1993 income tax of president clinton, and the top tax rate was 39.6%. threshold, $250 thud. so flash forward from 1993 to present, okay. well let me tell you something, there is this little thing called inflation. i know this might be nitpicking. but $250,000 today well, started out if you want to be apples to apples would be about $165,000 then. in other words, we are not adjusting even for inflation. so, if we're talking about $250,000 today being the same as then, we're wrong. it would be $165,000. so the point is, is that the difference between these two is $85,000. okay? is a 35% miss when it comes to being honest about it. oh, even worse let's take this. how many times, of course you've heard a million times, taxes on million favors and billionaires, even though, and i know this is adjusted, okay, but let's just keep it $250,000. well, 250 grand isn't a million. so it's off by 750-k over 1 million. okay? so, in essence, what we're doing is we're off on this one by 75%. we're off by 35% and 75%. so why am i doing this? because i'll tell you what, m
we always talk about the 1993 income tax of president clinton, and the top tax rate was 39.6%. threshold, $250 thud. so flash forward from 1993 to present, okay. well let me tell you something, there is this little thing called inflation. i know this might be nitpicking. but $250,000 today well, started out if you want to be apples to apples would be about $165,000 then. in other words, we are not adjusting even for inflation. so, if we're talking about $250,000 today being the same as then,...
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they may finds a compromise that isn't necessarily clinton era tax rates, something in between. but it looks like the makings of a deal. with every change on the republican side, more and more likely to happen than not. >> all right. we'll see about that. we'll be watching. obviously, very, very important for the markets. thanks. see you later. >>> let's get to bertha coombs. one company with big moves after the bell. over to you. >> maria, amarin is falling after the bell. some had suspected them to solicit a bid to buy itself out. it has a drug that's a fish oil drug that's prescription. they say they're hiring a sales staff and they still expect to present more details to the fda in february 2013. some disappointment, clearly, there. maria. >> thanks so much, bertha. we'll keep watching that. >>> up next, the stock market and america. steve liesman up next with surprising new results from the exclusive cnbc survey. >>> and then as the lawsuits fly over hewlett-packard's autonomy mess, i'll talk with the ceo of deloitte and their role in looking over the books. ally bank. why
they may finds a compromise that isn't necessarily clinton era tax rates, something in between. but it looks like the makings of a deal. with every change on the republican side, more and more likely to happen than not. >> all right. we'll see about that. we'll be watching. obviously, very, very important for the markets. thanks. see you later. >>> let's get to bertha coombs. one company with big moves after the bell. over to you. >> maria, amarin is falling after the bell....
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we are proposing to let the rates go back to clinton levels. that was a time of remarkably good economic growth in the country. strong private investment, strong job growth and strong growth in next. it was a good time for the american economy. makes a lot of sense. but in addition to that we propose to limit deductions for the top two percent of americans as well. we are willing to work with republicans on tax reform to create a more simple and fair system but only part of an agreement that has the rates go back up at the end of the year. >> 39.6%? >> and the reason eye why -- >> i understand the reason why. >> if you don't do that, you have to ask yourself where, whose taxes are you going to raise? where are you going to fine the money to bring a balanced plan in place that reduces our long-term deficit? >> how does that go for the economy if we go over the cliff? >> the american economy? >> yes. >> it would be very damaging. there's no reason it should happen. the only reason it would happen is if a group of members of congress decide they a
we are proposing to let the rates go back to clinton levels. that was a time of remarkably good economic growth in the country. strong private investment, strong job growth and strong growth in next. it was a good time for the american economy. makes a lot of sense. but in addition to that we propose to limit deductions for the top two percent of americans as well. we are willing to work with republicans on tax reform to create a more simple and fair system but only part of an agreement that...
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ronald reagan and throughout the clinton era. john: george w. bush hired 86,000 more regulators. >> banking is one of the most regulated industries if not the most. the problem was not deregulation but we had a crisis caused by a massive industry in real-estate due to policies to seven everybody encouraged to take out a mortgage. there will intended. they crafted the bill. logic says this will protect us? >> dodd/frank does not end the bailout are too big to fail. john: all this? that is left in here and even encouraged because it implies some banks will be bailed out. >> right. when you say the bank is systemic you say it is an institution to big and important and critical to allow to be left 57 they have labeled them systemic. it shows what happens and white increases the risk. the big banks can borrow money more cheaply because they think the government will bail them out. >> creditors know they will not be bailed out if they fail so they give them money at it cheaper rate. >> jpmorgan chase pays $4 interest but the small bank pays $70 $0.50.
ronald reagan and throughout the clinton era. john: george w. bush hired 86,000 more regulators. >> banking is one of the most regulated industries if not the most. the problem was not deregulation but we had a crisis caused by a massive industry in real-estate due to policies to seven everybody encouraged to take out a mortgage. there will intended. they crafted the bill. logic says this will protect us? >> dodd/frank does not end the bailout are too big to fail. john: all this?...
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when you look at the news today hillary clinton met with the russian foreign minister, syria's biggest ally is russia. if russia tells them you have to calm down they'll calm down. >> you think they're going lower. are you buying or selling oil slide? logon to futuresnow.cnbc.com and vote in our poll, we'll give you the results on our website and while there catch today's show, we have investment guru curtis arlidge of bny mellon and tune in to that and doug cass will reveal how he's playing apple's wild ride today at 1:00 p.m. futuresnow.cnbc.com. >> see you at the top of the hour on cnbc.com. >>> coming up halftime fund managers doing fancy trading to give portfolios a temporary boost and are you, the investor, left holding the bag? jpmorgan's tom lee on track to hit his 2012 s&p target, we'll ask him what's next for the market own your money when halftime comes back. o o. >>> welcome back. will quarter end she nan ganz be hurting your money? some portfolio managers are bidding up stocks the second before a quarter ends, those stocks see temporary pops and the managers can point to b
when you look at the news today hillary clinton met with the russian foreign minister, syria's biggest ally is russia. if russia tells them you have to calm down they'll calm down. >> you think they're going lower. are you buying or selling oil slide? logon to futuresnow.cnbc.com and vote in our poll, we'll give you the results on our website and while there catch today's show, we have investment guru curtis arlidge of bny mellon and tune in to that and doug cass will reveal how he's...
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ben's father is an old friend of the clintons. over the years, he has donated thousands of dollars to theirs and other democratic political campaigns and over time, the families became close friends. >> ben, a beautiful man, with a beautiful life. some people live four times as long and don't do as much good or bring as much joy. >> why did you decide to call me? >> i called you in desperation. i wanted to know what to do. i just knew that somebody needed to do something, but that's why i called you. i thought you, a, i knew you'd care about it. b, i thought you'd know something about it. >> i could tell in your voice that you were pretty broken up. what kind of kid was he? >> a light shined out of him. that's all i can tell you. he grew up, he was big, strong, handsome, smart. and wanted to make something of his life. he was industrious, but normal and liked to have a good time. i promise you that night he had no idea he was turning out the lights. none. and if it's true of him, it's got to be true of a lot of other people. >> as
ben's father is an old friend of the clintons. over the years, he has donated thousands of dollars to theirs and other democratic political campaigns and over time, the families became close friends. >> ben, a beautiful man, with a beautiful life. some people live four times as long and don't do as much good or bring as much joy. >> why did you decide to call me? >> i called you in desperation. i wanted to know what to do. i just knew that somebody needed to do something, but...
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. >> four days ago we offered a serious proposal based on testimony of president clinton's former chief of staff. since then there's been no counteroffer from the white house. instead, reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow-walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: not surprisingly, democratic house leader nancy pelosi had precisely the opposite explanation for what is behind this stalemate. she says republicans simply echoing the white house are going to have to buckle on the issue of the top rates. >> the only obstacle standing in the way of middle income tax relief are the republicans unwillingness to ask the top 2% to pay their fair share. >> but tyler, as you suggested, this is all a work in progress. the thing we cannot see that is not visible to the public or to the press is what's going on behind the scenes. staff discussions resumed yesterday. don't know how fruitful. i haven't gotten much of a signal from people on either side that a deal is close, but they're work rg at it and sometimes these situations can tur
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we have the same tax rates that we have when bill clinton was president. significant cuts in defense and also significant human services can you tell us. >> katie, let me ask you, before you respond to what governor dean is saying. there is logic to what howard dean is saying. i don't happen to agree with it. but i know where he's coming from. katie, let me ask you this -- katie can't hear me. we'll wait for her to get back hooked in. howard, what about the notion that i'm posing tonight -- i've said this a few times -- republicans better be careful. they're not going down your road and the democrats aren't going down your road. you have middle class tax cuts for the democrats and it sometimes sounds to me as an old reagan conservative that the republicans better watch themselves because sometimes it sounds like they are kind of defending rich people. that's their whole mantra, just defending rich people. and i think that's not where they should be. >> i would agree. if i were politically advising the republicans, which i'm certainly not, i think tom colts
we have the same tax rates that we have when bill clinton was president. significant cuts in defense and also significant human services can you tell us. >> katie, let me ask you, before you respond to what governor dean is saying. there is logic to what howard dean is saying. i don't happen to agree with it. but i know where he's coming from. katie, let me ask you this -- katie can't hear me. we'll wait for her to get back hooked in. howard, what about the notion that i'm posing tonight...
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>> it's not just the clinton tax rates. we had a pretty good economy under bill clinton. >> different spending rates, too, back then, governor. >> well, that's right. it's also cuts in defense which we haven't had in 30 years and a cut in human services, which i'd rather not do, but i think everybody needs to something on the table to get what we need to get. it's the best deal for the country. we'll have a recession. the cbo thinks and i agree with this, we'll have 1.3% negative growth for two quarters and we'll go back with a slightly less than 2% growth rate for the entire. we're not going to get out of this without pain. anybody when thinks we'll get through the deficit problem without having to do some sacrificing is wrong. what this does in my view as a democrat is it distributes the burden of the pain fairly, that is, we go back to the clinton tax rates for everybody, not just for rich folks. and we had a good economy under bill clinton. we go back -- we get -- cuts in defense spending which we know is higher than it
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four days ago we offered a serious proposal based on testimony of president clinton's former chief of staff. since then there's been no counteroffer from the white house. instead reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow-walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. instead of reforming the tax code and cutting spending, the president wants to raise tax rates. but even if the president got the tax rate hike that he wanted, understand that we would continue to see trillion-dollar deficits for as far as the eye can see. listen. washington's got a spending problem, not a revenue problem. if the president doesn't agree with our proposal, i believe that he's got an obligation to families and small businesses to offer a plan of his own, a plan that can pass both chambers of the congress. we're ready and eager to talk to the pretty about such a plan. >> speaker, you did speak with the pretsident earlier this wee. can you talk about that call? also we understand that he's making clear that it's got to be increasing rates for the wealthy or no deal
four days ago we offered a serious proposal based on testimony of president clinton's former chief of staff. since then there's been no counteroffer from the white house. instead reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow-walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. instead of reforming the tax code and cutting spending, the president wants to raise tax rates. but even if the president got the tax rate hike that he wanted, understand that we would...
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they'll have another clinton step up? further more, the democratic party is split. 17% of them are extremely lib rals and the rest of them are centrists. the senators that are running are centrists. the ones that just got elected with centrists. >> she bridges that divide right now. >> what's happened is, the extreme liberals, i guess i talk to a lot of those guys, they're also pragmatic. they would see hillary clinton as someone who could continue to make incremental progress toward what they want. >> i do think -- the whole race of 2016 pivots off of her. it will pivot off of her. republicans are going to pivot off of what she does. this is a moment where we're going to have a dominant woman candidate for president. whether hillary clinton runs or not, another woman is going to run. washington is in dire need of women leadership. this country would be served well, whether it's hillary or someone else, a woman candidate emerged. >> junior senator from new york will be that woman who's now occupying hillary's seat. >> and
they'll have another clinton step up? further more, the democratic party is split. 17% of them are extremely lib rals and the rest of them are centrists. the senators that are running are centrists. the ones that just got elected with centrists. >> she bridges that divide right now. >> what's happened is, the extreme liberals, i guess i talk to a lot of those guys, they're also pragmatic. they would see hillary clinton as someone who could continue to make incremental progress...
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we'll talk with former republican senator it alan simpson, and clinton white house chief of staff, erskine bowles, who chaired the first deficit reduction commission. they're concerned about the dangers ahead. so concerned that simpson took to the dance floor to urge young people to get involved. we'll also get the take of rising democratic star cory booker, the mayor of newark. what's his answer to the washington gridlock? and is he planning a run for governor against chris christie. for analysis, we'll turn to joe klein of "time" magazine. "washington post" columnist michael gerson, and our own norah o'donnell and major garrett, our chief white house correspondent. it's all ahead on "face the nation." captioning sponsored by cbs from cbs news in washington, "face the nation" with bob schieffer. >> schieffer: good morning, again. well, to the famous combos of modern life, from mac and cheese, peanut butter and jelly, rum and coke, bread and butter, and salt and pe pepper, add one more pair simpson-bowles. alan simpson may be in wyomingy and erskine bowles in north carolina but you can't m
we'll talk with former republican senator it alan simpson, and clinton white house chief of staff, erskine bowles, who chaired the first deficit reduction commission. they're concerned about the dangers ahead. so concerned that simpson took to the dance floor to urge young people to get involved. we'll also get the take of rising democratic star cory booker, the mayor of newark. what's his answer to the washington gridlock? and is he planning a run for governor against chris christie. for...
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praised clinton in a more than ten-minute video tribute. take a look at this. >> strength, toughness, very strong streak of principle. >> i had the opportunity to work with her, to achieve ceasefire between israel and hamas. >> a strong and determined leader. >> politics as a mother, as a senator, the pinnacle up to now of her public service. >> one of the best secretary of states in american history and finally, hillary, a lot has been said about our relationship and here is what i know. you haven't just within one of my closest partners, you've become a great friend. >> yet this was not it at the 2016 convention yet. for those wondering if clinton may have politics in her faw tour listen to how the video wrapped up and secretary clinton's reaction. >> on the side of human rights, human dignity. more countries may have the same extraordinary good fortune that we've had. >> someone who knows a thing or two about political comeback, i can tell you i don't think we've heard the last of hillary clinton. ♪ girl, you're amazing just the way yo
praised clinton in a more than ten-minute video tribute. take a look at this. >> strength, toughness, very strong streak of principle. >> i had the opportunity to work with her, to achieve ceasefire between israel and hamas. >> a strong and determined leader. >> politics as a mother, as a senator, the pinnacle up to now of her public service. >> one of the best secretary of states in american history and finally, hillary, a lot has been said about our relationship...
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hillary clinton was not clear about what the red line would be? >>reporter: that is right. for the talk about a "red line" is seen as crossing, officials are being vague about the actions by the americans that it would trigger. >> we think it is important to prepare if contingency planning. we are actively consulting with friends, and allies and the opposition. i would not want to speculate what actually might happen. >>reporter: the sites where certain president bashar al-assad stores and maintains the stockpiles of chemical weapons and their related components are broadly speaking, known to american intelligence agencies much the step up movement at the locations was first reported by "new york times" and senior officials confirmed it to fox news and added "we don't know if the scenes plan to use them but there are troubling signs." the real fear on the part of the obama white house specifically is that assad, having failed to stop the two year uprising using conventional military means and having killed an estimated 40,000 people in the process, could now turn to weapons
hillary clinton was not clear about what the red line would be? >>reporter: that is right. for the talk about a "red line" is seen as crossing, officials are being vague about the actions by the americans that it would trigger. >> we think it is important to prepare if contingency planning. we are actively consulting with friends, and allies and the opposition. i would not want to speculate what actually might happen. >>reporter: the sites where certain president...
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the real core of what clinton had was they cut spending. their percentage of spending to gdp was so much less, and that's where they got out of it. that agreement in '97 cut taxes and cut spending, which spurred growth. and we need a pro-growth economy. that's how we're going to get out of this mess. what we're talking about today, of just raising the taxes, does not solve the problem. i don't see it passing the house. now, republicans have not sat back. we've put revenue on the table. but the president has always said it has to be a balanced approach. >> if you can choose, if you could choose, what's -- i mean we've heard -- we've heard from their side, from the other side, and i'm talking about from your viewpoint, secretary geithner. >> yes. >> has said, we -- if we don't get the 2% -- if we don't get the rise on rates on the 2% we'll go over the fiscal cliff. in your view would it be better to go over the fiscal cliff than to get the back to the clinton rates on the high end? >> i think the best thing we don't go over the fiscal cliff.
the real core of what clinton had was they cut spending. their percentage of spending to gdp was so much less, and that's where they got out of it. that agreement in '97 cut taxes and cut spending, which spurred growth. and we need a pro-growth economy. that's how we're going to get out of this mess. what we're talking about today, of just raising the taxes, does not solve the problem. i don't see it passing the house. now, republicans have not sat back. we've put revenue on the table. but the...
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does he insist on raising the top rate from 35% all the way up to the clinton rate of 39.6%, or would he compromise on something lower, like 37%? is that negotiable. >> we will not extend an extension of the tax rates for the top 2%, we think they should go back and need to go back to clinton levels and let me explain why. >> chris: i just -- to answer my question, specifically, you are saying nonnegotiable, 39.6%. >> we think that is the way to do it. if you don't do that, it costs a trillion dollars, roughly a trillion dollars over ten years. >> chris: not if you went to 37%. >> again, but you are -- >> that is one of the ideas, out there, sir, i'm not making it up. >> that is out there, and again we are proposing to let the rates go back to clinton levels and that was a time of remarkably good economic growth, in the country. strong private investment, and strong job growth, strong broad-based growth in incomes, and, it was a good time for the american economy and in addition we propose to limit deductions for the top 2% of americans as well and are willing to work with republicans
does he insist on raising the top rate from 35% all the way up to the clinton rate of 39.6%, or would he compromise on something lower, like 37%? is that negotiable. >> we will not extend an extension of the tax rates for the top 2%, we think they should go back and need to go back to clinton levels and let me explain why. >> chris: i just -- to answer my question, specifically, you are saying nonnegotiable, 39.6%. >> we think that is the way to do it. if you don't do that, it...
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do you think we're looking at bush versus clinton in 2016? >> i think the picture on the democratic side this far out, there's a little more clarity to it -- there's a lot more clarity than the republican side. if hillary clinton were to run in 2016 there are obviously no guarantees in life or politics, but within the democratic party for the democratic nomination, she will be a front-runner like we have never seen before. and i know we sort of said that about her in the run up to '08. she had two liabilities in '08 that were gone. she was considered too much of a polarizing figure. can she get independents to vote for her in the fall. the republicans who had been just relentless critics of her for 15 years in the '90s and the last decade, they have rolled over and lionized her as sort of this alternative 1i78 boll. this is the democrat we like. there's that and the other thing that dragged her down on the democratic side was the iraq war and i think largely that's forgotten now. i think her two big liabilities on the democratic side are gone
do you think we're looking at bush versus clinton in 2016? >> i think the picture on the democratic side this far out, there's a little more clarity to it -- there's a lot more clarity than the republican side. if hillary clinton were to run in 2016 there are obviously no guarantees in life or politics, but within the democratic party for the democratic nomination, she will be a front-runner like we have never seen before. and i know we sort of said that about her in the run up to '08....
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tax rates in a heartbeat if i could get the clinton spending rates. but neither side wants to talk about spending. it's not a deal to me if they're not going to talk about spending. >> i agree with you, eric. i think you're right. i wrote about that, too. but i think the president now, he's sort of signaled that he may be looking for some wiggle room here. later this afternoon he said that he wanted the tax rate cut now and he would be happy to look at lowering them again in a bigger package, but i agree with you. i think we have to get serious about these spending cuts. i just applied for social security and i want mine. >> all right. rich, appreciate it. eric, thanks. let us know what you think. follow me on twitter. i'm tweeting tonight. >>> just ahead, 21 months after bashir al assad began killing his own people, the fighting is raging in syria. the rest of the world may finally be convinced things are critical there. senator john mccain is asking what took so long. more from him ahead. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 let's talk about low-cost investing. tdd
tax rates in a heartbeat if i could get the clinton spending rates. but neither side wants to talk about spending. it's not a deal to me if they're not going to talk about spending. >> i agree with you, eric. i think you're right. i wrote about that, too. but i think the president now, he's sort of signaled that he may be looking for some wiggle room here. later this afternoon he said that he wanted the tax rate cut now and he would be happy to look at lowering them again in a bigger...
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the same rate we had when bill clinton was president. we have to ask you and me and the wealthiest among us to go back to the clinton rates for income above $250,000. >> the clinton tax rates, we need to go back. that's not a generic policy idea. that's really specific. the clinton tax rate for high income earners was 39.6%. that's what president obama was calling for during the campaign. that's still what president obama is calling for now. but now when you ask him if that's the red line, if it you ask if he will accept anything else, he doesn't really answer. >> tax rates. are you -- is there no deal at the end of the year if tax rates for the top 2% aren't the clinton tax rates, period. no ifs, ands or buts on that specific aspect of the fiscal cliff. >> with respect to the tax rates, i want to emphasize, i am open to new ideas. i'm not going to slam the door in their face. i want to hear -- i want to hear ideas from everybody. >> that's not a no. here is the treasury secretary timothy geithner. >> there's no agreement that doesn't in
the same rate we had when bill clinton was president. we have to ask you and me and the wealthiest among us to go back to the clinton rates for income above $250,000. >> the clinton tax rates, we need to go back. that's not a generic policy idea. that's really specific. the clinton tax rate for high income earners was 39.6%. that's what president obama was calling for during the campaign. that's still what president obama is calling for now. but now when you ask him if that's the red...
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to go back to the clinton era rates. you get rid of three quarters of the deficit just on tax increases at that point. >> and he says you get defense cuts. >> you can't get defense cuts any other way. and he's not the only one. there's a lot of people on the left and there's quite a few people on the right. i'm glad you're optimistic and a lot of ceos and guys in your position -- if you run a company, you don't need consumers petrified and business people petrified. this is the last thing we need if you run a company. i understand you have a horse in the game. >> but you also have the double trigger. if you go over the cliff, we've got the debt ceiling fight right afterwards. it's not like that's six months down the line. that's in if first month, six weeks of the new year. >> the other thing, depending on where you stand, the idea that we just get rid of congressional approval of the debt ceiling at all, which is that ludicrous proposal that was in the president's plan. that's not -- and would you really want that? woul
to go back to the clinton era rates. you get rid of three quarters of the deficit just on tax increases at that point. >> and he says you get defense cuts. >> you can't get defense cuts any other way. and he's not the only one. there's a lot of people on the left and there's quite a few people on the right. i'm glad you're optimistic and a lot of ceos and guys in your position -- if you run a company, you don't need consumers petrified and business people petrified. this is the last...
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we need to go back to the clinton era rates for the most well off americans. it's not going to kill us. the line between freedom and tyranny is not the 35 we pay now and the 39 that the rich will pay as we did when america was a communist paradise. it's just silly now. you've got to be for a tax rate increase or we will go over this fiscal cliff. >> no, you don't. you could raise from a carbon tax of $20 a ton, which will deal with, we are having the biggest record carbon levels. you could raise -- at 4% a year over the next ten year, twice as much as you could from allowing the bush tax rates to lapse. why the income tax system is overburdened in the united states. we use it too much. we should be looking at other taxes. we can't do it in 29 days. why are we doing it in 29 days? >> but the president ran on >> the republicans must agree to higher tax rates on well off americans. all the way to the 39.6 that the president, they have to. that's the ticket for admission because the president won the election and campaigned on that. the democrats are going to have
we need to go back to the clinton era rates for the most well off americans. it's not going to kill us. the line between freedom and tyranny is not the 35 we pay now and the 39 that the rich will pay as we did when america was a communist paradise. it's just silly now. you've got to be for a tax rate increase or we will go over this fiscal cliff. >> no, you don't. you could raise from a carbon tax of $20 a ton, which will deal with, we are having the biggest record carbon levels. you...
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. >> foremost is who will replace hillary clinton as secretary of state? the white house signaled that un ambassador susan rice will be the choice . this week, the president voiced ut most confidence in her. >> susan rice is extraordinary . couldn't be prouder of a job done. >> also this week another republican senator expressed major doubts about rice not only about the bengazi terrorist attack but because of the africa section during the terrorist attack in the embassy in kenya when they pled for better security. susan collins teled the message to the administration about the secretary of state opening. >> i think john kerry would be an excellent appointment and easily confirmed by the colleagues. >> there are other key cabinet picks. secretary of the defense will have to contend with a destabilized middle east and rising threats from asia when big defense cuts are anticipated. former republican chuck ha gel of nebraska and ashton carter and michelle florinoid . act being director michael more accident orell . homeland security advisor michael vickers an
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i'm not saying they'd do every detail. >> so was gingrich and clinton. >> and clinton and gingrich evolved into that kind of relationship. and i must say the president has done a poor job. he did a poor job last year and he's done a poor job this year. two days after the election, boehner came up with a tax revenue plan. very controversial in his party. he said, let's cap deductions and loopholes and leave the race alone because that help growth. that was $800 billion. it shocked a lot of republicans. and he got nothing. he got, you know, nothing from obama. and i think that started the bad blood. and i think the president -- >> good point. they both got to learn the art of negotiation. >> we haven't heard from democrats in the senate. i'm going to guarantee you that the democrats in the senate are going to be split on this business of who's rich and what the right tax rates are going to be. >> i have to leave it there, chaps. nick, larry, thank you both much, indeed. >>> coming up next, kerry kennedy joins me about fame, politics and most important of all, taylor swift.ta alka-seltzs cold
i'm not saying they'd do every detail. >> so was gingrich and clinton. >> and clinton and gingrich evolved into that kind of relationship. and i must say the president has done a poor job. he did a poor job last year and he's done a poor job this year. two days after the election, boehner came up with a tax revenue plan. very controversial in his party. he said, let's cap deductions and loopholes and leave the race alone because that help growth. that was $800 billion. it shocked a...
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i mean, if their competitor in '16 is going to be hillary clinton, supported by bill clinton and presumably a still relatively popular president barack obama, trying to win that will be truly the super bowl. and the republican party today is incapable of competing at that level. and it's part of this cultural thing with our consultants. you start out thinking giving away 47% of the country, by the way, which included retirees, veterans. you know, it was an absurdity. and i think this is much more than mitt romney. we didn't blow it because of mitt romney. we blew it because of a party which has refused to engage the reality of american life and refused to take -- to think through what the average american needs for a better future. >> but recall what you said about 1964. in december 1964, lyndon johnson was re-elected. goldwater was finished. it was the end of the republican party. and at the end, the republicans nominated a man named richard nixon. and he became president. unthinkable. >> so you can have a tcampaign between hillary clinton and jeb bush, representing 36 years of bushes on n
i mean, if their competitor in '16 is going to be hillary clinton, supported by bill clinton and presumably a still relatively popular president barack obama, trying to win that will be truly the super bowl. and the republican party today is incapable of competing at that level. and it's part of this cultural thing with our consultants. you start out thinking giving away 47% of the country, by the way, which included retirees, veterans. you know, it was an absurdity. and i think this is much...
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david: okay, but the fact is that they lowered tax rates during the clinton area. they lowered the capital gains rates from 28% to 20% in 1997. that had an enormous impact on increasing product it, brought in twice the amount of revenue from capital gains they were getting with the higher rates. actually, the president answered a question related to this. mike says, mr. president, why won't keeping tax rates low across the board encourage hires and, therefore, more tax revenue? now, listen to what the president answers. he says: high-end tax cuts do least for economic growth and cost almost $1 trillion. extending middle class accounts boosts consumer demand and growth. but, in fact, as i said, when they lowered tax rates and capital gains, you had increased growth. >> yeah. david: so the concern is if you increase rates right now, you will cut down on the growth in the economy. >> we've seen it in europe. whenever they increase rates on the near term on slow growth economies, devastation -- david: and they just did it in france. they just did it in spain. they just
david: okay, but the fact is that they lowered tax rates during the clinton area. they lowered the capital gains rates from 28% to 20% in 1997. that had an enormous impact on increasing product it, brought in twice the amount of revenue from capital gains they were getting with the higher rates. actually, the president answered a question related to this. mike says, mr. president, why won't keeping tax rates low across the board encourage hires and, therefore, more tax revenue? now, listen to...
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clinton 4% growth. more than 4% and reagan chose to that. that buoyed public sentiment that helped their approval ratings throughout enormous revenues that they could use. if obama gets a recession in the second term after the slow growth of the first term, he's dead in the water. he can't afford that. >> yes, but ball there's a whole economic school, we call it keynesian, which says that when the economy is slow and not growing, government has to step in and play the role of the engine of growth, by spending money. this is something that the democrats believe in religiously, and they think that the only way to get the economy growing again is to spend a lot of money from the government. that's where the problem comes in. >> all right. when we come back. as he prepares for a second term. president obama faces the prospect of assembling a whole new national security team. a closer look who could fill the top post and a preview of the controversies to come next. ♪ [ male announcer ] the way it moves. the way it cleans. everything about the o
clinton 4% growth. more than 4% and reagan chose to that. that buoyed public sentiment that helped their approval ratings throughout enormous revenues that they could use. if obama gets a recession in the second term after the slow growth of the first term, he's dead in the water. he can't afford that. >> yes, but ball there's a whole economic school, we call it keynesian, which says that when the economy is slow and not growing, government has to step in and play the role of the engine...
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would you accept returning to the clinton rate of 39.6%? or, would you accept something, perhaps, a mid point, 37% or starting with people who make $500,000, rather than 250? >> well, chris, there is a growing group of folks, that are looking at this and realizing that we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue before year end. i mean, we have one house, that is it. the presidency and the senate, is in the democrats' hands, and a lot of people are putting forth a theory and i actually think it has merit where you go ahead and give the president the 2% increase, that he is talking about, rate increase on the top 2% and all of a sudden the shift goes back to entitlements, and all of a sudden once you give him the right on the top 2%, it is actually much lesser tax increase than what he has been talking about, the focus then shifts to entitlements and maybe it puts us in a place where we actually can do something that really saves the nation, so, there is a growing body, i actually am beginning to believe that is the best rout
would you accept returning to the clinton rate of 39.6%? or, would you accept something, perhaps, a mid point, 37% or starting with people who make $500,000, rather than 250? >> well, chris, there is a growing group of folks, that are looking at this and realizing that we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue before year end. i mean, we have one house, that is it. the presidency and the senate, is in the democrats' hands, and a lot of people are putting forth a theory...
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have a good weekend. >>> hillary clinton is defending u.n. ambassador susan rice calling her a colleague. she has come under fire about the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. >> our understanding evolved over time and we've done our best to keep the american people and the congress informed. that was her goal. that was her mission, and she should not be criticized for doing exactly that. my moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. i decided enough is enough. ♪ [ spa lady ] i started enbrel. it's clinically proven to provide clearer skin. [ rv guy ] enbrel may not work for everyone -- and may not clear you completely, but for many, it gets skin clearer fast, within 2 months, and keeps it clearer up to 9 months. [ male announcer ] because enbrel®, etanercept, suppresses your immune system, it may lower your ability to fight infections. serious, sometimes fatal, events including infections, tuberculosis, lymphoma, other cancers, and nervous system and blood disorders have occurred. before starting enbrel, your doctor should test you for tu
have a good weekend. >>> hillary clinton is defending u.n. ambassador susan rice calling her a colleague. she has come under fire about the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. >> our understanding evolved over time and we've done our best to keep the american people and the congress informed. that was her goal. that was her mission, and she should not be criticized for doing exactly that. my moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. i decided enough is enough. ♪ [ spa lady ] i...
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i imagine both secretary clinton and mr. brahimi would be lean on the russians to convince assad to leave power. he's finished in syria. there's no way he's going to emerge victorious. the only options for him are to lose and lose his life, most probability, or leave syria but certainly this civil war now more than 40,000 people dead, and with the latest problem with chemical weapons, the civil war has to be brought to an end. >> now, ambassador, both president obama and secretary of state clinton warned chemical weapons are the red line on syria. i also want to play something that defense secretary leon panetta had to say in reaction to the reports about the preparation of chemical weapons. let play that and talk about what diplomatic options are left. >> the president of the united states made very clear that there will be consequences. there will be conconsequences if the assad regime makes a terrible mistake by using these chemical weapons on their own people. i'm not going to speculate or comment on what those potential
i imagine both secretary clinton and mr. brahimi would be lean on the russians to convince assad to leave power. he's finished in syria. there's no way he's going to emerge victorious. the only options for him are to lose and lose his life, most probability, or leave syria but certainly this civil war now more than 40,000 people dead, and with the latest problem with chemical weapons, the civil war has to be brought to an end. >> now, ambassador, both president obama and secretary of...
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what was so bad about the 39.6% highest rate under bill clinton? the economy was pretty good under bill clinton and that grumbling from democrats, i think, will be helpful to, ironically, republicans because a lot of republicans on the right are going to be saying to boehner, we had pledged to grover norquist no tax increase at all and here you are, agreeing to what is effectively, a tax increase. and i think that both sides are going to have to give a little bit of something. and that 37% may be the golden median. >> doug, let's talk about the unemployment report that came out. it shows 7.7% unemployment. you know, i know a lot of democrats want to say, oh, it's dropping, but it seems to me for months and months and months, the unemployment numbers have just remained awful. they move a little up and down, but they're just a mess. 12 million people unemployed. it seems to me that that could cut either way. republicans could still lean on that and say, you may be winning the pr war on this thing right now. but don't forget, you've got a big problem
what was so bad about the 39.6% highest rate under bill clinton? the economy was pretty good under bill clinton and that grumbling from democrats, i think, will be helpful to, ironically, republicans because a lot of republicans on the right are going to be saying to boehner, we had pledged to grover norquist no tax increase at all and here you are, agreeing to what is effectively, a tax increase. and i think that both sides are going to have to give a little bit of something. and that 37% may...
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however, i think if we fall to the clinton era tax rates, i'm okay with that. i think that e we ought to have some wiggle room on the tax rates because i think the country wants us to compromise. so there's compromise space there, but make no mistake, we're not going to compromise away the upper end tax rates. that's on the table. it will stay on the table. that's what the american people are asking for. >> congressman, great to have you with us tonight on "the ed show." appreciate your time. remember to answer tonight's question. share your thoughts on twitter and on facebook. we always encourage you and want to know what you think. >>> coming up, mitch mcconnell filibusters his own bill in the senate. bernie sanders joins us to talk about what that means for the future. >>> and fiscal cliff talks. stay with us. you're watching "the ed show" on msnbc. low-cost investment options-- tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 like our exchange traded funds, or etfs tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 which now have the lowest tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 operating expenses tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 in their resp
however, i think if we fall to the clinton era tax rates, i'm okay with that. i think that e we ought to have some wiggle room on the tax rates because i think the country wants us to compromise. so there's compromise space there, but make no mistake, we're not going to compromise away the upper end tax rates. that's on the table. it will stay on the table. that's what the american people are asking for. >> congressman, great to have you with us tonight on "the ed show."...
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clinton, hillary clinton will head to morocco. that's bag day. three days of talks with government on how to end bloodshed in syria. more than 40 thousand syrians have died in the 21-month conflict as you know. on wednesday go on twitter to catch the pope's first tweet from his personal account. we're going to answer questions about faith. there you go. you can actually follow the pope on twitter. in less than a week he's managed to get 600,000 followers. very popular guy. friday, time's person of the year. that's a big day. you may remember the protester was chosen. and on saturday, there we go, a potentially pivotal moment for the nation. indication the latest on it right here on cnn. there you have it. >>> thrn mooing south african leader nelson man doula is president. jacob zuma assures there's no cause for alarm but people are certainly wired about his health. we're joined from south africa. great to talk with you. what do we know in terms of nelson mandela's health? we're learning that he's going three extensive testing, is that right? the
clinton, hillary clinton will head to morocco. that's bag day. three days of talks with government on how to end bloodshed in syria. more than 40 thousand syrians have died in the 21-month conflict as you know. on wednesday go on twitter to catch the pope's first tweet from his personal account. we're going to answer questions about faith. there you go. you can actually follow the pope on twitter. in less than a week he's managed to get 600,000 followers. very popular guy. friday, time's person...